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Details of altercation made public
Melodie Phelps
News Editor
There has been no decision on the fate of Monticello Police Officer
Robert Ellisı position with the force, but a lengthy hearing, which was open
to the public, has provided details of an apparent altercation between Ellis
and Chief Melvin Rose that occurred on February 17.
Prior to the hearing on Thursday, March 24, there were numerous stories
circulating about the incident.
The Outlook has been contacted several times, by telephone and by
e-mail, regarding the altercation, but the only information released to the
newspaper over the past several weeks was a public notice that was required
by law to be placed in regard to Ellisı public hearing.
According to testimony provided Thursday, the incident occurred in the
squad room of the Monticello Police Department and began after Ellis
questioned a change on his time card.
Both Ellis and Rose testified that Ellis had claimed three hours sick
time, which Rose changed to vacation time. Ellis had picked up his paycheck
and noticed the change just before the altercation.
But from there the testimony of the two changes quite a bit. Rose said
that Ellis was the aggressor in the incident, and Ellis said that Rose
sprayed him with mace several times. Kentucky State Police Trooper Parrish
Baker, who was in the building at the time of the incident, stated that he
was sprayed several times as well, as he tried to separate Ellis and Rose.
The hearing was set up much like a court hearing, with Mayor Thurston
Frye presiding over the event. City Attorney Jay Jones presented witnesses,
including Chief Melvin Rose, while Robert Ellisı attorney Gail Wilson, who
is from Jamestown, presented witnesses to support Ellisı case. Numerous city
police officers and former city police officers were called to testify for
the hearing, as well as dispatchers.
In addition to officers and dispatchers, the hearing began before a
standing room only crowd, as many local residents, who had heard rumors
about the altercation, attended.
Frye stated Ellis, who is apparently suspended from duty at this time,
is accused of assault, violation of the cityıs personnel and procedures
policy regarding sick leave, as well as verbal abuse of other city
employees.
Rose was the first person to provide testimony during the hearing. Rose
testified about February 9, when Ellis had called into the dispatch center
and said that he would not be able to work his shift that night. Rose stated
that Ellis told the dispatcher on duty that he had to be in Corbin for court
the next morning.
When Rose reviewed time sheets submitted by Ellis for that shift, he
said the officer had written down three hours sick time for February 9. Rose
said he changed the time sheet to reflect three hours vacation time instead
of sick time before he signed the document. Rose said he was following the
cityıs policy by changing the time sheet, since an employee can be suspended
or terminated for turning in an inaccurate time sheet.
Rose also stated that he did not receive any documentation indicating
that Ellis had been sick on February 9.
Rose was on a traffic stop on February 17, when he was called by Ellis
to meet him at the police station. He said it was around 2 p.m. Rose said
that when he entered the squad room, Ellis was sitting at his brotherıs desk
and was looking at his pay stub.
Rose said he walked behind the desk to where Ellis was sitting and Ellis
asked him about the change from sick time to vacation time. Rose said that
as he began to explain it, Ellis took both his hands and smacked them down
hard on the desk.
From there, Rose said Ellis pushed him and then grabbed him by the front
of his shirt. Rose said he stepped back and took out his can of mace. At
this point, Rose stated that Ellis threatened to kill Rose if he maced him.
Rose testified that Ellis advanced toward him with his fists up. Rose
said Ellis took a swing at him, did not hit him, and Rose said he sprayed
his mace.
Rose said Ellis swung and punched him on the ear, then picked him up and
threw him across the desk. Rose said he was hit several other times by Ellis
and was knocked against the bulletin board.
³I continued to spray him with mace because I thought he was trying to
kill me,² stated Rose.
At some point, Rose said that Trooper Baker came into the room and tried
to pull Ellis off him. At some point, employees from the street department
came into the back of the building and Baker and Ellis exited into the
parking lot, according to Roseıs testimony.
Rose said that he was later contacted by Trooper Baker, who wanted to
know what Rose wanted him to do. Rose said that he had talked with the mayor
regarding the incident.
Rose presented pictures of his ear, which he said suffered broken
cartilage because of one of the blows he took from Ellis. He also testified
that he was bruised on his chest and stomach, as well as several other
places. Rose also said he had been suffering from a back problem before this
altercation.
Ellisı attorney then questioned Rose regarding the incident. Wilson
asked if he recalled Ellis being on the phone when he entered the squad
room. Rose said he did not see him on the phone.
Wilson also asked Rose about the change in the time sheet for Ellis.
Rose said he had changed time sheets on other instances. He said that he had
not contacted Ellis regarding the change before he turned it in.
Under questioning by Wilson, Rose stated that Ellis had received the
Officer of the Year Award for 2003. He also stated that there were no
warnings or other complaints in Ellisı personnel file.
Rose told Wilson that during the altercation with Ellis, each time Ellis
challenged him he sprayed him with mace.
After Rose finished testifying, Jones called Trooper Baker in for
questions. Baker said that he was working out in the basement of the police
department when Ellis first came down and talked with him. Baker said Ellis
came and asked if someone could change a time sheet after it had been
signed. Ellis explained that he had used three sick hours and that his check
reflected that it was three vacation hours.
Baker said he advised Ellis to talk with City-Clerk Treasurer Greg
Latham about the matter, and Ellis left to go back upstairs to use the
phone. Baker said Ellis came back later to tell him that Latham said the
chief had changed the time sheet and that he was allowed to make the change.
Latham had advised Ellis to talk to Rose or the mayor.
Baker said that as he was preparing to leave the basement, he heard a
loud noise. He then heard a second loud noise, and as he made his way
upstairs, Baker said he heard Ellis calling for him. Ellis was yelling that
Rose was macing him, according to Baker.
Baker said that he ran into the squad room and found Ellis and Rose
standing face to face between Ronnie Ellisı desk and the window to the 911
dispatch center. He said that he saw Rose spray Ellis with the mace. Baker
testified that Ellis then struck Rose twice in rapid succession.
Baker said Rose started to stumble and turn, then wheeled back around
and sprayed Ellis again. Baker said he saw Ellis strike Rose again.
Baker said he ran to get between the two officers. He said that Ellis
was cursing and yelling during this time, but that Rose did not say
anything. Baker said that Rose sprayed again, this time hitting the trooper
as well as Ellis.
³I got a face full,² stated Baker. He explained that the stuff ³hurts a
lot...It is painful.²
Baker said he was trying to wipe his face, as he again got between the
two men. At that point, Baker said that Rose sprayed mace again and the
trooper got another face full. As Rose retreated, Baker said Ellis advanced
toward him and as he stepped between them, Rose sprayed the mace again.
At some point, street department employees Jamie Wallen and Dwight
Gregory entered the back of the building, Baker testified. He said that he
wrapped up Ellis around his mid-section, and he, Gregory, and Wallen took
Ellis out the back of the building into the parking lot.
Baker said that he talked with his sergeant at the Police Post to see
what to do. He was advised to talk to each officer and see if they wanted
the State Police to be involved. Neither indicated that they wanted the
State Police to do anything, according to testimony.
Under questioning from Wilson, Baker explained the effects of mace. He
said it physically hurts, it causes the eyes to swell and it stifles
breathing. Baker also told Wilson about verbal commands that officers are
trained to use when utilizing mace on a suspect.
911 Dispatch Center Coordinator Stella Pogue was on duty when the
incident occurred. Pogue said that she first talked with Ellis just before 2
p.m. when he asked her about his pay check and the time that was changed on
his time sheet. She said Ellis used the console in the dispatch area to
contact Rose on the radio.
She said Rose entered the building and then went to the squad room. She
heard a scuffling noise several minutes later and turned in her chair to see
what was going on. She said she saw Rose and Ellis and they were standing
close together. She said she saw Ellis hit Rose. Pogue turned back to the
console and began to radio for other officers to come to the station to
help.
When she looked back around, Pogue said Ellis and Rose were at the other
end of the squad room, much further away from the window. She also saw
Trooper Baker trying to part the two men.
Pogue turned back to take phone calls and when she looked back in the
squad room, Gregory and Wallen were there.
Pogue was also asked to review a 911 dispatch log that was kept for
February 9, when Ellis called in to tell the dispatcher that he would not be
in to work his shift. According to the log, Ellis told the dispatcher that
he had to be in court the next morning in Corbin.
Both Gregory and Wallen also testified about entering the police station
through the back door and finding Ellis being restrained by Baker. Wallen
said that as they led Ellis out the back door, Rose continued to walk toward
the men.
Dispatcher Johnny Dishman testified regarding an altercation with Ellis
that occurred at least a year ago. He said Ellis had made a traffic stop and
had become upset because it had taken Dishman some time to provide him with
information regarding the registration of the vehicle.
Dishman said that Ellis was angry when he returned to the police station
and that he threw off his jacket. ³I was very intimidated by him,² stated
Dishman.
Dishman said he spoke with Rose, as well as County Judge-Executive Bruce
Ramsey regarding the incident. He decided not to file a formal complaints
against Ellis and said that Ellis later called him and apologized.
Dispatcher Jerry Guinn was questioned about an incident regarding a
filing cabinet that was damaged at the police station. Guinn said that he
had a disagreement with Ellis over a call that he put out over the radio.
Guinn said that a filing cabinet was hit or kicked and was dented, but
he did not see who damaged the cabinet. He said he and Ellis talked things
over and they got the problem resolved.
Several members of the Monticello Police Department, including Officer
Tony Morris, Officer Allen Braden, and Sgt. Joe Bybee testified about
statements they had made regarding incidents when Ellis appeared angry. None
of the officers said they had filed any complaints against Ellis.
Bybee said that Ellis had made several remarks about Rose favoring Bybee
over the other officers. A former officer, Rick Marcum, who was called for
testimony by Wilson, said that remarks like this were common when he was
with the department. He referred to it as banter between the second and
third shift officers.
Wilson brought in Officer Ronnie Ellis as a witness. Ronnie Ellis was
apparently on the telephone and heard much of the incident in the squad room
that afternoon.
Ronnie Ellis said that he was at the jail with a shoplifter he had taken
into custody, when a deputy jailer informed him that he had a call from his
brother. Ronnie Ellis picked up the phone, but no one said anything on the
other end. He said he began to hear conversation in the background.
Ronnie Ellis said he heard his brother ask Rose why he had changed his
time. Ronnie Ellis said he heard Rose say, ³Youıre not going to bully over
me like you think you can the others.²
The next voice he heard was his brotherıs, telling Rose not to spray him
with mace. Then, he said he heard his brother calling for Trooper Baker.
Ronnie Ellis said he hung up the phone and headed to the police station
to see what was happening. When he reached the facility, Baker and his
brother were in the parking lot, washing their faces with water.
Ronnie Ellis said he went inside to talk with Rose to see what had
occurred. Rose said that Robert Ellis had come after him and that he had
sprayed him with mace.
Ronnie Ellis said that he was never asked to give any statement to the
Monticello Police Department regarding what he heard. He said he wrote out
what he heard over the phone on his own time, probably on the weekend after
the incident occurred.
Deputy Wayne Conn, who is a former Monticello Police Officer, testified
about two incidents in which his time sheet was changed by Rose while he was
a city officer. Conn said that on the first occasion, he had written down
four hours of overtime, which occurred during a week when he was driving to
daily training. When he received his paycheck, the overtime had been taken
off.
When he asked Rose about the change, Conn said he was informed that he
could not be paid for driving time to and from training. Officers were only
paid for driving one way.
On another occasion, Conn said he had taken sick time and when he was
paid it was changed to vacation time. When he asked Rose about the change,
Conn said Rose told him that he didnıt think he had been off sick.
Conn said Rose did not consult him on either of these changes before
they were made.
Conn also testified in regard to training to use mace, since he is an
instructor for the program. He said there are verbal commands that are used
when utilizing mace. If a suspect poses a threat to an officer, then the
officer uses a one to two second burst of the spray to make the suspect
compliant.
Former Monticello Police Officer D.J. Davis testified regarding a threat
made to him by Rose, soon after Rose became Police Chief. Davis said he was
asked to meet Rose in the parking lot of the shopping center. He said Rose
threatened to fire him if he did not get his activity numbers up.
Former Monticello Police Officer Gordon Stephens also testified that
Rose threatened to fire him regarding activity numbers. Stephens said he was
written up for lack of activity. He testified that during times when his
activity numbers were lower, he was working third shift when there is less
traffic ticket activity.
The final testimony was presented by Robert Ellis, who recounted the
events of February 17, from the time he picked up his paycheck in the 911
Dispatch Center. Ellis said he first questioned Baker about the change in
his time sheet. He later called Latham about the change, and said he also
talked to Pogue about the matter.
After talking with Baker a second time, Ellis said he sat down at his
brotherıs desk and placed a call to the Wayne County Detention Center to
talk with his brother. He said he heard Rose enter the station and then talk
with Pogue before coming back to the squad room.
Ellis said he laid the phone on his shoulder. He said he asked Rose why
his time sheet had been changed from sick time to vacation time. Rose made
the statement that Ellis wasnıt going to bully him like the other officers,
and Ellis said that he slapped his hand down on the desk. He said Rose was
approaching him as he talked. Ellis said he stood up from the desk.
At that point, he recalled Rose stepping back and tugging at his belt.
Ellis said he thought Rose was getting his mace out and he warned Rose not
to spray him. At this point, Ellis said he was still behind his brotherıs
desk. Ellis said that Rose sprayed him, then he made a swing at Rose and
missed. He said he began to yell for Baker at that point.
³It had escalated into something that should never have happened,² said
Ellis.
Ellis said he told Rose not to spray him, but said that Rose continued
to spray him, even after Baker had wrapped him up.
Ellis said that it was only after the second time he was sprayed with
mace that he actually ever struck Rose. He said that he did not recall
grabbing him by the shirt.
The hearing concluded at 7:30 p.m. and Mayor Frye noted that he had a
five-day period in which to issue a ruling. When contacted Monday morning,
Frye said that it would likely be Wednesday before he reached a decision. He
noted that there are several different things that can occur as far as
disciplinary action in this matter, but he did not elaborate.
Reader Comments
Don (4/1/2005)
I thunk both of these so called monticello finest should be fired immediately.
Michael Ingram (4/1/2005)
I think they both should go. As a military law enforcement officer as well as a future civilian officer this behavior is completly uncalled for and is a serious danger to other officers working the streets.
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